Panel 4: "The Future of the ESA: A Conversation with Some Premier ESA Attorneys & Scholars" Holly Doremus, Professor, UC Berkeley School of Law Damien Schiff, Principal Attorney, Pacific Legal Foundation Kassie Siegel, Senior Counsel & Director of the Climate Law Institute, Center for Biological Diversity Richard Frank, CELPC Director & Professor of Environmental Practice, UC Davis School of Law [Moderator]